Atlanta - Miami

its over 125% just remove stevenson.

Not sure the 1st round pick is necessary, but whatever. I accept.

Miami and I talked for A LONG time.

I wanted the scoring three point threats of Allen and Lewis. I have inside play in Horford and Millsap, I needed the outside scorers. Also, I dont really like Lou Williams. This trade allows me to cut a lot of cap for next season. Anthony will be involved in another trade eventually.

I think my team should be able to find a top 3 spot in the East and that would negate the value of that pick.

Plus I am not done working yet. I will have another 1st in '14 by the draft.

Homecourt or die trying!!

Fixed.

Would have loved to know the rating changes were going to take place now and not after the season.

Yeah. Think I got took on this one.
I was thinking that the 83 and 84 would last until next off season.

This is why trading for ratings at the expense of real-life value isn't a good idea, just a note to everyone. Ratings have always been updated in Ian's leagues kind of sporadically (when he gets time to do it), so trade for the player's real-life value, not his current rating.

This is kinda BS, I think we should allow Larry to re-evaluate this.

I dunno guys, there's been lots of warnings that these rating changes were going to occur. Ray and Rashard have been on the list for months now. I don't really see how this was unforeseen.

3 accepts already, he offered me this one so in my opinion when he made this trade i was thinking he was researching for the good of his team and as a GM i think you should be responsible for your actions.

i accepted this trade because i think this was the best move for my team.

Strategy is the key.

You guys act like we make rating changes all the time. This stuff has been queued in the forums for months, and it is just randomly done whenever Ian gets motivated. We also never specified that the ratings from D5 are going to be transferred over to here. I was under the impression that we imported the ratings for this league from 2k or something.

We're acting like everyone knew this would happen except Atlanta, but I doubt the committee would have even passed this trade if they were aware of the rating changes. Larry is giving up a younger, higher rated player AND a 1st rounder. So either the committee was also misinformed, or a terrible decision was made to pass this trade. Either way, I think we should at least consider reevaluating it under these circumstances.

come on men, they are the committee. their decision should always be final. before they accept or reject it they should make some research also.

Well I am new here. And I do not know how things work. But it is plain to see that the group of people who built this league have a process set for the inner workings of the league. Starting a new league though seems to be different then the usual day-to-day. Sounds like we didn't know all the player ratings would be shared between leagues. I'm a bit confused about having guys on my Roster acquired during the 2013 off-season, but we are starting in the 12/13 season. So there are things that need more clarification.

I'm just throwing in my two cents here, but overall this type of league is about fairness and fun. This trade has not passed the sniff test simply because we are having this discussion. Which does lend itself to reevaluation. I'm not saying if the trade was fair or not, because it all depends on what each person involved with the trade was going for. But I don't think we should let a 3-approval process get in the way of what makes the most sense for the league and the parties involved.

Since I have not weighted in yet, which I am sure seems unusual to most , I will throw in my two cents. I think the trade should pass since three committee members accepted it, but I think the principal in the future should be to avoid looking at trades by the method illustrated below:


Not to pick on Alex but you should reject or wait to make a decision if you feel something even may be a little out of bounds. I also found it interesting Ian initially liked the trade for Miami when he said they "toned down their talent." While I worry a little bit about the first round pick myself, Ray Allen probably constitutes the best player in the deal and at least gives Atlanta something. On the other hand, he may retire after this year and this trade will result in Atlanta losing their 1st round pick, in the coveted 2014 draft, for nothing. Obviously, I would reject this deal if I served on the trade committee.