Dynasty Five

Bob McAdoo

Sophomore

Posts: 97

Jul 13, 2014 3:14:25 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 28, 2013 23:03:00 GMT

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Post by Bob McAdoo on Oct 28, 2013 23:03:00 GMT

The Cleveland Cavaliers trade:

76 Tristan Thompson $4,006,000 $4,286,000 $5,421,000

The Miami Heat trade Mario Chalmers:

79 Mario Chalmers $4,000,000 $4,000,000

Tristan has been a disappointment so far in the wine and gold, Miami will help him reach his substantial (Canadian) upside.

The Cavs get a solid back-up PG and spot starter in SuperMario.

Alex English

Trade Committee

Posts: 213

Jun 10, 2014 18:07:48 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 29, 2013 4:01:15 GMT

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Post by Alex English on Oct 29, 2013 4:01:15 GMT

I reject. This trade makes absolutely no sense for the Cavs. Tristan is worth way more than just Chalmers to begin with, plus there is no need for him with Kyrie Irving and Jarrett Jack already on the roster, plus the Cavs only other back up post player is Jeremy Tyler. I don't understand why Cleveland would accept this.

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Ian Noble Commissioner Posts: 749 Apr 26, 2020 9:43:23 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 29, 2013 8:19:56 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on Oct 29, 2013 8:19:56 GMT Yeah I don't get it either. Why trade for a third-string point guard?
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Bob McAdoo

Sophomore

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Jul 13, 2014 3:14:25 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 0:10:38 GMT

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Post by Bob McAdoo on Oct 30, 2013 0:10:38 GMT

Alex, Tristan has been a huge disappointment and I think that while his eventual upside may be higher than SuperMario's I think it is a lot further away, timewise. Tristan has been getting garbage time minutes only - he is 9th man in my rotation. Please make an offer if you are interested.

Ian, I don't know that Mario Chalmers is a 3rd string PG. More like back-up PG and spot starting SG. Yes, Jordan Crawford has not been the scorer I need at SG and I`m looking to add some 3 pt shooting too.

Bob McAdoo Sophomore Posts: 97 Jul 13, 2014 3:14:25 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 0:14:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bob McAdoo on Oct 30, 2013 0:14:37 GMT The Cavaliers with draw the trade offer.

Ian Noble Commissioner Posts: 749 Apr 26, 2020 9:43:23 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 10:31:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on Oct 30, 2013 10:31:27 GMT What about Miami?
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Troy Bolton Rookie Posts: 48 Jun 29, 2014 7:35:51 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 12:29:10 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Troy Bolton on Oct 30, 2013 12:29:10 GMT I just wann trade chalmers men he wthdrew this trade

Alex English

Trade Committee

Posts: 213

Jun 10, 2014 18:07:48 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 14:50:24 GMT

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Post by Alex English on Oct 30, 2013 14:50:24 GMT

Oct 30, 2013 0:10:38 GMT Bob McAdoo said:

Alex, Tristan has been a huge disappointment and I think that while his eventual upside may be higher than SuperMario's I think it is a lot further away, timewise. Tristan has been getting garbage time minutes only - he is 9th man in my rotation. Please make an offer if you are interested.

You're putting way too much weight on sim results man. A player's value is based on real life performances and Tristan improved a lot over his rookie year last season and had an excellent pre-season going into this year. If he has another good year he'll be due for a rating increase.

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Walt Frazier

Trade Committee

Posts: 169

Aug 15, 2024 23:48:14 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 30, 2013 18:21:05 GMT

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Post by Walt Frazier on Oct 30, 2013 18:21:05 GMT

Honestly a hard one to put in a reject...it's not like Chalmers is garbage, but I know exactly where Alex is coming from.

Plus alex probably wants Tristan if he knows the price is cheap :-p

Just messing with you on that Alex, but this is the kind of deal you pull off, not other people!

I don't know what's actually happening with this trade so I'm going to hold off voting for now.

Dominique Wilkins Sophomore Posts: 72 Dec 30, 2013 2:18:13 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 31, 2013 7:29:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dominique Wilkins on Oct 31, 2013 7:29:24 GMT Not sure why Clev wants a backup PG w Jack on the bench. I think Tristan is a good young talent that's got more potential than a backup to a backup. I reject.
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Walt Frazier

Trade Committee

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Aug 15, 2024 23:48:14 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 31, 2013 12:56:28 GMT

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Post by Walt Frazier on Oct 31, 2013 12:56:28 GMT

I will just say, I agree this doesn't make sense b/c Chalmers will be CLE's 3rd PG in this game...but Chalmers is not a backup, or a backup to a backup, he's a starting PG in the NBA. So, his value should also be related to that, not just what CLE will have after this.

Maybe he has a plan to make another move?

Does this deal leave either team bereft of talent? Is the talent really that far off between these two? We've all seen "potential" not pan out. Not saying that will or won't happen with Tristan, but at this point I just find it hard putting in a reject here, especially with the types of deals that have gone through in this league. At least both of these guys are relatively young, it's not a 30+ year old bench player being traded for a 20 year old guy with potential and talent.

Again I agree I don't see why CLE does this, at least not on the surface, but I could see him making a trade or trying different lineups, and I don't think this trade cripples either team, which is what I thought was our main criteria for putting in a reject.

Ian Noble

Commissioner

Posts: 749

Apr 26, 2020 9:43:23 GMT

Cavaliers - Heat Oct 31, 2013 16:58:25 GMT

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Post by Ian Noble on Oct 31, 2013 16:58:25 GMT

Oct 31, 2013 12:56:28 GMT Walt Frazier said:

Again I agree I don't see why CLE does this, at least not on the surface, but I could see him making a trade or trying different lineups, and I don't think this trade cripples either team, which is what I thought was our main criteria for putting in a reject.

I don't know that it's our "main criteria", but it's a factor and I agree with you Walt.

I can't see why Cleveland would ever make this trade, but it's not worthy of a reject.

Also the Rules state that Bob McAdoo cannot back out of this trade now that it's posted:

GMs cannot change their mind about a trade once they've posted the trade thread or replied with an acceptance.

So unless Troy Bolton changes his mind, this deal will be left up to the committee to decide.

Ian - accept
Walt - accept
Dominique - reject
Alex - reject

We're still waiting on Josh.

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Josh Barber Trade Committee Posts: 104 Dec 29, 2014 15:48:46 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 31, 2013 19:34:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Josh Barber on Oct 31, 2013 19:34:39 GMT I'm gonna reject. Cleveland doesn't want to do this trade anymore and Thompson (22 years old) was decent enough last year to be worth more than Chalmers.
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Ian Noble Commissioner Posts: 749 Apr 26, 2020 9:43:23 GMT	Cavaliers - Heat Oct 31, 2013 22:31:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on Oct 31, 2013 22:31:50 GMT Sorry guys, back to the drawing board on this one.
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