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Vlade Divac Sophomore Posts: 86 Jul 11, 2015 4:16:44 GMT	Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 17, 2013 19:14:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Vlade Divac on Oct 17, 2013 19:14:47 GMT www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24091740/dwight-howard-is-upset-the-magic-essentially-didnt-retire-his-number I loled so hard at this! Dwight just doesn't get it.

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 17, 2013 23:56:19 GMT Ian Noble likes this

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Post by Alex English on Oct 17, 2013 23:56:19 GMT

This is almost like a hit piece. Dwight Howard's actual quote is nothing like the tone of the whole article. This is what he said:

"I just think that despite whatever happened, there was a lot of things that I did and that we did as a team, and that number was special down there," Howard said. "And I was a little bit upset about that."

Unless he said it in a really douchey way then the tone of him being upset is in a 'that's kind of unfortunate' way and not a 'I'm pissed off and insulted' way. This just looks like sensationalism.

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Vlade Divac

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 18, 2013 1:58:27 GMT

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Oct 17, 2013 23:56:19 GMT Alex English said:

This is almost like a hit piece. Dwight Howard's actual quote is nothing like the tone of the whole article. This is what he said:

"I just think that despite whatever happened, there was a lot of things that I did and that we did as a team, and that number was special down there," Howard said. "And I was a little bit upset about that."

Unless he said it in a really douchey way then the tone of him being upset is in a 'that's kind of unfortunate' way and not a 'I'm pissed off and insulted' way. This just looks like sensationalism.

You maybe right partially, but he should not even be "a little bit upset" about Harris wearing his number. Honestly, he never really accomplished much and I think Hedo and Lewis might should get their number retired before him.

Alex English Trade Committee Posts: 213 Jun 10, 2014 18:07:48 GMT	Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 18, 2013 2:35:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Alex English on Oct 18, 2013 2:35:38 GMT Oct 18, 2013 1:58:27 GMT Vlade Divac said: I think Hedo and Lewis might should get their number retired before him. Lol
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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 22, 2013 15:21:18 GMT

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Post by Kenny Anderson on Oct 22, 2013 15:21:18 GMT

Oct 18, 2013 1:58:27 GMT Vlade Divac said:

I think Hedo and Lewis might should get their number retired before him.

Not a chance. Dwight's number will eventually be retired in Orlando, but I believe he should be a bit more focused on this upcoming season as opposed to Tobias Harris wearing #12.

Vlade Divac Sophomore Posts: 86 Jul 11, 2015 4:16:44 GMT	Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 23, 2013 3:05:59 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Vlade Divac on Oct 23, 2013 3:05:59 GMT No way, what did Dwight ever accomplish to deserve his number retired?

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 23, 2013 14:19:33 GMT

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Post by Alex English on Oct 23, 2013 14:19:33 GMT

Oct 23, 2013 3:05:59 GMT Vlade Divac said:

No way, what did Dwight ever accomplish to deserve his number retired?

Everything? He led the team to 4 straight 50+ win seasons and an NBA Finals appearance. He's won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards, he played in 6 All-Star Games while with the Magic and 5 All-NBA 1st teams. He also holds the franchise records for:

Points - 11435
Rebounds - 8072
Off Rebounds - 2266
Def Rebounds - 5806
Blocks - 1344
Free Throw Attempts - 5727
Free Throws Made - 3366
Minutes Played - 22471
Rebounds Per Game - 13.0

He's also:
2nd in Games Played
2nd in Field Goal Attempts and Makes
2nd in Blocks Per Game
4th in Steals
5th in Points Per Game
10th in Assists

In NBA history he's:

5th in FG%
12th in RPG
19th in BPG

At this pace he'll be top 5 all time in rebounds and top 10 all time in blocks.

He's by far the most accomplished Magic player of all time. He'll easily get into the Hall of Fame and retiring his number will be one of the easiest decisions for the Magic front office to make after he retires.

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 23, 2013 14:31:44 GMT

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Oct 23, 2013 14:19:33 GMT Alex English said:

Oct 23, 2013 3:05:59 GMT Vlade Divac said:

No way, what did Dwight ever accomplish to deserve his number retired?

Everything? He led the team to 4 straight 50+ win seasons and an NBA Finals appearance. He's won 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards, he played in 6 All-Star Games while with the Magic and 5 All-NBA 1st teams. He also holds the franchise records for:

Points - 11435
Rebounds - 8072
Off Rebounds - 2266
Def Rebounds - 5806
Blocks - 1344
Free Throw Attempts - 5727
Free Throws Made - 3366
Minutes Played - 22471
Rebounds Per Game - 13.0

He's also:
2nd in Games Played
2nd in Field Goal Attempts and Makes
2nd in Blocks Per Game
4th in Steals
5th in Points Per Game
10th in Assists

In NBA history he's:

5th in FG%
12th in RPG
19th in BPG

At this pace he'll be top 5 all time in rebounds and top 10 all time in blocks.

He's by far the most accomplished Magic player of all time. He'll easily get into the Hall of Fame and retiring his number will be one of the easiest decisions for the Magic front office to make after he retires.

Lebron's number will not be retired in Cleveland, Melo's number will not be retired in Denver, god help us if Toronto retires Chris Bosh's number, and Dwight's number will not be retired in Orlando. If he wants his number retired it needs to work out in Houston.

PS. Regardless of numbers, Shaq is the "most accomplished" Magic play ever.

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Alex English

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 23, 2013 16:54:45 GMT

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Oct 23, 2013 14:31:44 GMT Vlade Divac said:

PS. Regardless of numbers, Shaq is the "most accomplished" Magic play ever.

No he isn't. I'm not referring to their whole career, just what they did in Orlando. Shaq was only there four seasons and his only accomplishments are Rookie of the Year and going to the 1995 Finals.

But whatever, you live in a world where Tim Duncan sucks and Hedo and Rashard Lewis accomplished more in Orlando than Dwight.

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Vlade Divac

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Dwight Howard mad Magic in regards to his jersey number. Oct 23, 2013 18:01:59 GMT

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Post by Vlade Divac on Oct 23, 2013 18:01:59 GMT

I stand by the fact that Hedo and Shard did more than Dwight, but your Shaq vs. Dwight comparison even just the Orlando years is ludicrous.

Shaq PPG:

23.4
29.3
29.3
26.6

Dwight PPG:

12
15.8
17.6
20.7
20.6
18.3
22.9
20.6

Shaq RPG:

13.9
13.2
11.4
11

Dwight RPG:

10
12.5
12.3
14.2
13.8
13.1
13.2
14.1
14.5

Shaq BPG:

3.5
2.9
2.4
2.1

Dwight RPG:

1.7
1.4
1.9
2.1
2.9
2.8
2.4
2.1

Clearly I am taking Shaq who not only dominates in points but also in blocks and is very close in rebounds.

To clarify my Duncan position, the guy WAS a great player at one point in time. However, he ceased to be that player about 2005, due to injuries, but yet people still put him on a level to a point that sickened me.