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Alex English

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Jun 10, 2014 18:07:48 GMT

Magic - Raptors Sept 20, 2013 20:21:17 GMT

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Post by Alex English on Sept 20, 2013 20:21:17 GMT

So lets look at this:

Ian accepted
Josh accepted
Walt rejected because it favours me
Dominique rejected because it favours Orlando

If there are rejects in the opposite direction isn't that a strong indication that it's a fair trade?

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Billy King

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Magic - Raptors Sept 20, 2013 20:38:54 GMT Walt Frazier likes this

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Post by Billy King on Sept 20, 2013 20:38:54 GMT

It doesn't matter what favors who, this trade should never have been passed in the first place. As the new rule says, if a trade is deadlocked at 2-2, it must be voted upon by the General Managers. It's been voted upon and no General Manager has been in favor of passing this trade.

This type of nonsense has been happening for the past three weeks, beginning with the Miami Heat and Atlanta Hawks trade.

When rules are not followed, the league isn't fun anymore.

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Alex English Trade Committee Posts: 213 Jun 10, 2014 18:07:48 GMT	Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 0:43:26 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Alex English on Sept 21, 2013 0:43:26 GMT That rule wasn't made until after this trade had been moved to the accepted trades section.
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Josh Barber Trade Committee Posts: 104 Dec 29, 2014 15:48:46 GMT	Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 0:59:26 GMT Billy King and Walt Frazier like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Josh Barber on Sept 21, 2013 0:59:26 GMT The thing is, I'm not sure anyone understands why it was moved to accepted in the first place when we didn't have all of the votes in.
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Walt Frazier

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Aug 15, 2024 23:48:14 GMT

Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 3:25:22 GMT

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Post by Walt Frazier on Sept 21, 2013 3:25:22 GMT

Sept 20, 2013 20:21:17 GMT Alex English said:

Alex, the main issue is what Billy and Barber are referring to above I think.

Also, if there are two rejects in opposite directions, maybe another way to look at it is it could be an even worse trade than a normal reject lol.

Last Edit: Sept 21, 2013 3:25:40 GMT by Walt Frazier

Ian Noble

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Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 7:16:33 GMT

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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 21, 2013 7:16:33 GMT

The main issue I have with this trade's resurrection is that it's been resurrected. There's obviously a few things that have gone wrong here, probably because I'm not 100% coherent recently thanks to a nasty bout of vertigo (!!), but to go back on what's happened would be unfair to Alex English in my opinion.

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Walt Frazier

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Aug 15, 2024 23:48:14 GMT

Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 16:11:52 GMT Billy King likes this

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Post by Walt Frazier on Sept 21, 2013 16:11:52 GMT

To be fair (to myself at least), I had a problem with it as soon as the old Magic GM left the league. And right now at the top of the shoutbox, the new Magic Gm says "Rudy Gay OTB, almost any offer will get him"

In other words, I'd bet he'd rather have those young guys with quite a bit of potential (especially Tobias, and Mo to a little lesser extent) on his roster than overpaid, good but not great Rudy Gay.

I really don't understand why it was ever passed through, it honestly seems like a very un-Ian thing to do to pass a trade through when a GM backed out of the LEAGUE during the voting process.

Walt Frazier

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Magic - Raptors Sept 21, 2013 16:12:59 GMT

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Post by Walt Frazier on Sept 21, 2013 16:12:59 GMT

Oh and those younger guys with tons of potential are also younger and WAAAAAY cheaper, even combined, than Rudy Gay, so yea, I just am still kinda baffled you didn't kill the trade when the old Magic GM backed down.

In summary, that hurt the Magic more than NOT doing the trade would have hurt Alex.