Nuggets and Celtics

Little on the fence here.

31-Year Old, breaking down physically, playing less mpg lately, worst contract of the bunch...last year had 7.7ppg / 4.6rpg / 2.6apg / 1.4spg / .7bpg (in 30mpg)
Very low value 2013 2nd Round Pick

for

37-Year Old, past his prime, playing fewer minutes but seems consistent at this point, fair(/slightly bad?) contract...last year had 9.6ppg / 2.9rpg / 5.9apg / .9spg / .1bpg (in 26mpg)
27-Year Old, in his prime, consistent backup big man, fair/slightly overpriced contract...last year had 2.6ppg / 2.6rpg / .2apg / .1spg / .4bpg (in less than 9mpg)
Middle/Low end FIRST ROUND pick in the 2014 Draft

Honestly, GWall for Miller and Mozgov is fair. Miller is probably the most productive and consistent player in the deal, and doesn't have a huge contract. Wallace is probably the worst overall piece in the deal. His rating needs to be like, 78-79 unless he proves these last years were a fluke. He's no longer hovering around 2+steals/1 block a game, which is what got him to an 85...he needs to come down at least 4-5 points.

I don't understand why the 1st is needed here. Of course Ian would like it, but I don't see why it is needed.

* Miller
* Mosgov

Sorry on cell

I think it makes sense here, but in real life I don't see the Nugs making this trade. Contract is just terrible, 1st round pick too valuable. You basically don't have to guard Wallace on offense (i.e. Bulls playoff series) That's where he becomes a liability. His strength was his athleticism and that is on the decline. Could work a little better with Denver's offense then Nets/Celts though

Wow if this gets rejected I will be 3 accepted/3 rejected since we started the league. I don't think there's more unlucky GM.

Credit to my elite trading skills clearly

Accept

Still waiting on Walt's final decision here.

Doesn't that put us at 2-2 though?

Did it? I thought your vote was the tiebreaker. So at 2-2 whatever you voted was the result of the trade. Obviously that can't apply to this trade though.

Actually, I see it the same way I see fantasy basketball trades. Unless their is obvious collusion, and obvious league wide unrest to a trade, then it should go through. You know what you are doing and you are your own team. I understand it can bone everyone else. Or anyone coming into the league (I'm not sure how high turnover is) But that's the point of not making bad trades.

I would reject the Magic trade simply because the GM is leaving.

Well I did take a look at some of the rosters on D5 and was dumbfounded how in the world some of those teams got put together. So, makes sense to me.

I would also vote to accept this trade.

I don't agree that Andre Miller is a superior basketball player than Gerald Wallace. Wallace may have had a horrid season, but he's a solid baller who will not be going under 80 anytime soon.

Obviousily the first round pick that Denver gives up is big, but I don't think it's enough to justify a reject.

CMs: 2-2

Others that voiced their own opinion: 2-0

I know this trade has been rejected but how was Timofey Mozgov involved when he is still listed as an available free agent

That's cool of you, Alex, and obviously I really want this trade to be accepted, but it's more important we do what's right here in the wider context of what's going to happen in the future. I think this may take some level of preparation on my part so that the staff are aware of which teams should be in special measures, certainly Philly and maybe Orlando should have been from the start of this league given their situations and the value of their draft picks. We already make minimal provisions for new GMs... and that has to be balanced with a new GM's desire to get involved... I digress, I'm a little drunk this evening!

If this trade has 3 accepts though I'm going to move it to accepted and, unless there's any objection, I think it gets passed. I'll leave that up in the air for the time being.